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23 replies 1223 views +35 rating February 17, 2010 11:06pm

Bioshock 3 and Andrew Ryan

Every one thought of this and is probley still thinking it didn't they say in bioshock that the vita-chambers where made for Ryan and his family so the fact is ryan should still be alive if you go by that but two things to that that I know will be said it could have been changed when you put in the key whell if so then where is Fontaine not trying to be a deush but irratinal do you have any idea what there going to do cause if they do there probley going to ask for some designs or somthing of the sort cause bioshock 1 was your great art of work thanks and I'm out.

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February 17, 2010 11:08pm

P.S. WTF happens to tennenbon I know there saving her for 3 but you only see her once and then your stuck with Sinclair.

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February 23, 2010 9:23am

Tennenbaum is still in Rapture saving Little Sisters, apparently. It isn't really said, but it can be inferred. Or she escaped. Idk maybe that's what the single player DLC will discuss.

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February 24, 2010 11:13pm

True hopefully it will stretch the story to farther places and more to the story the thing is she said that she was going to help some old friends before rapture whent deep 6

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March 30, 2010 10:59pm

He might be alive for all we know, but unless some vitachamber watchamacallit hillarity ensued, I doubt bringing him back would be a good idea.

Of course, Rapture being constantly destroyed and still have enough of an area to allow a third game is hillarious on itself, but, what do we know anyway? It isn't like video games are that serious.

Tenembaum is mentioned as being still in Rapture looking for the rest of the little sisters. I'm willing to bet that she's simply dead by now, though, but the way people still survive in Rapture - Stanley Pooley for example - is a real mystery anyway, so perhaps she'll stick out her head again.

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April 27, 2010 9:05pm

I don't think the vita chambers would be used for something like that. They are just a way to save your progress and get back into the action quickly.

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April 27, 2010 11:08pm

The story behind the vita chambers was they were designed for Andrew Ryan and the only reason you can use them as Jack in the first game is because you are his son. I believe he said he was going to turn off the vitachamber in his office so that you could kill him. If the chamber is off there's no coming back.

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April 27, 2010 11:32pm

Is that really how it works? It would only check if the closes one is on and if not your screwed lol. My understanding of it all was that as long as one is functional you would be revived it would just revive you at whichever one is closest to you. Either way if they want to bring him back they can they can always make up some excuse as to why he is still around.

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April 29, 2010 10:20am

See, my understanding of the mythology is that Bioshock was the only game intended by IG. In that sense, I consider the story of Bioshock over after the first game. The second game was just a result of players desire to return to rapture. In that sense, since they didn't really explore the possibilities of the vita chamber to revive Andrew Ryan from the dead, I'm considering them just a save point and Ryan just as dead as any little sister that I came across.

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April 30, 2010 7:48am

I understand that I'm just restating what they said in the first game. Andrew Ryan was the only one that the Vita Chambers were set up for, that's how they explained you being revived but the splicers not. But to allow you to kill Andrew Ryan, he turned of the one in his office and had you kill him. My guess is that the Vita Chambers were only made to work within a certain range so by turning off the closest one he may have been out of range of all the others.

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July 01, 2010 5:28pm

I do not think that Andrew Ryan should return unless there was some brilliant story writing involved.

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September 06, 2010 8:28am

it is true that andrew ryan should have been bought back. why he didnt i dont know.

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September 06, 2010 1:57pm

I want no more Andrew Ryan, hes the heart of Rapture and as much as I loved his commentary, Im ready for a new story. BTW I wont say how or why or who, But Tennenbaum leaves Rapture in Bioshock 2 Minervas Den DLC.

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September 10, 2010 6:47pm

Andrew Ryan comes back as a robot bent on Destroying the world b/c he is bad that his dream city was destroyed.

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September 22, 2010 11:55am

erickromenaker said:<P>Andrew Ryan comes back as a robot bent on Destroying the world b/c he is bad that his dream city was destroyed. </P>

The new BioShock takes place before the first BioShock, in other words it’s a prequel of sorts, but from what I have gathered from the early game previews and interviews on X-box the story is going in another direction.

I posted my thoughts on a possible tie-in for Andrew Ryan to play a part in the new BioShock.
http://irrationalgames.com/community/forums/bioshock-story-amp-gameplay/thread-title-4

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October 12, 2010 5:45pm

Now i wanna know what happens to some of the characters. Keep Bioshock alive!

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October 13, 2010 4:25am

I would love to see the next installment of the Rapture bioshock be set before the civil war to give it enough time to get a feel of what is was like to live in rapture and have a slow build up to the war. i think that would work well, give irrational or whoever to fully flesh out characters and events that we only heard about in audio diaries

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October 14, 2010 5:23am

If we ever return to Rapture, I want it to be something totally different. Like back when Rapture wasn't insane. Maybe make it a noir game with detectives and intrigue. Or set in the future of the 80's and Rapture is in the process of rebuilding and returning to civilization somehow.

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October 24, 2010 9:02pm

From my understanding....

Bioshock 3 is set before Rapture was created. it is my theory that Andrew Ryan does not exist yet, and that the inspiration for Rapture came from someone else in his family (mind you, I didn't play the 2nd one, so I'm not sure if they flesh that out at all). We all saw the big daddy under the sea in the fish tank -- a miniature version used for later inspiration perhaps?

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October 25, 2010 12:28pm

seethrumirror said:
From my understanding....
Bioshock 3 is set before Rapture was created.

BioShock Infinite isn't BioShock 3.

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October 28, 2010 11:00pm

Question... Why is the new game called BioShock when it has nothing to do with the first two games? I think that it must have some kind of connection to Rapture even though it is set long before Ryan built Rapture.

If it has nothing to do with Rapture then why do we see {in the trailer} a Big Daddy like figure and we are made to think we are looking at a figure of Rapture but it ends up being a figure from the Chicago World's Fair 1893. Its like they are saying...oh look we are back in Rapture...oh! Just kidding!

With that out of the way I have to say that Infinite looks interesting all though I will miss the Art Deco look that Rapture had.

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October 29, 2010 1:36am

"It would be dishonest to say this is not BioShock." -Ken Levine

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November 15, 2010 12:56am

This is a ridiculously ignorant and stupid question, but this means there IS going to be a BioShock 3, right? As in one that takes place, again, in Rapture.
I ask because when I've looked through the internet, despite some sites distinguishing BioShock 3 and BioShock Infinite as both different things and both to be created eventually, I've seen some video-game reporting sites have BioShock Infinite have one of its tags as "BioShock 3." So, despite the fact that I'm pretty sure BioShock 3 will be made(and isn't BioShock Infinite), the internet has been sort of screwing with my head as of late. And I really hate assuming things with incorrect certainty.

And this is yet another random topic, but I heard an argument (I'm guessing one that's false) stating "Infinite" may be implying that (while it follows the BioShock series style and all) it's in an alternate universe.

ON topic, I had always at first figured Bioshock 3 would take place at the time Rapture JUST began to fall. It was a more obvious possibility, to me, than actually making a game take place after Bioshock 2. But the idea of adding Andrew Ryan could be a tricky one to accomplish-MAYBE not a bad one, but if the developers abuse some older ideas, concepts, characters, etc. etc. by reusing them too often it will make the series a lot more dull. So there'd have to be some sort of interesting explanation for Ryan suddenly being revived(the vita chamber would work, maybe, as others suggested), and also he'd need some purpose in being in the game at all. In ways besides just restating his highly idealistic views.

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November 15, 2010 5:29am

tickchitock said:I ask because when I've looked through the internet, despite some sites distinguishing BioShock 3 and BioShock Infinite as both different things and both to be created eventually, I've seen some video-game reporting sites have BioShock Infinite have one of its tags as "BioShock 3." So, despite the fact that I'm pretty sure BioShock 3 will be made(and isn't BioShock Infinite), the internet has been sort of screwing with my head as of late.

Video game journalists make this stuff confusing all the time. Like how people were reporting that the God of War collection for PS3 was a "remake", when in actuality it is more of a "revamp" or just an HD rerelease.

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